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4051 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I07989)
 
4052 From: dgudeman
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:33 PM

Maria Barbara Schwald (1844) had an illegitimate daughter named Maria Barbara on January 19, 1864, in Kaltenbach.
She had a second illegitimate daughter in Kaltenbach on March 27, 1866, named Ernstina. On July 8, 1866, Johannes Forsthuber of Kaltenbach acknowledged that he was the father of Ernstina (inexplicity, shown as Verena Ernstina).
We can make the reasonable assumption that he was the father also of Maria Barbara (1864).
Johannes Forsthuber and his brother Johann Jacob exchanged favors. Each was a Godfather to illegitimate children fathered by the other. Johann Jacob later married Maria Katharina Lais of Kaltenbach, the mother of his illegitimate child.
On March 28, 1867, Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Barbara Schwald in Kaltenbach. They went on to have five more children, all born in Kaltenbach.
1. Albert--April 3, 1870 (Maria Katharina (Lais) Forsthuber was a Godmother.)
2. Ernst Friedrich--May 8, 1871 ( Jacob Friedrich Forsthuber and Johann Georg Forsthuber, two other brothers, were Godfathers.)
3. Emma--December 3, 1872 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
4. Albert Friedrich--May, 30, 1875 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
5. Anna Maria--May 26, 1877 (Johann Jacob Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
Maria Barbara (1844) died sometime after the birth of her last child; and Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Katharina Renk of
Kaltenbach (she was 16 years younger) on April 24, 1884.
Ernstina (1866) married Alexander Boetsch of Griesheim on February 24, 1887, in Kaltenbach.
Johannes Forsthuber and Maria Katharina Renk had a daughter named Sopfia in Kaltenbach. 
SCHWALD FORSTHUBER, Marie Barbara (I02457)
 
4053 From: dgudeman
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:33 PM

Maria Barbara Schwald (1844) had an illegitimate daughter named Maria Barbara on January 19, 1864, in Kaltenbach.
She had a second illegitimate daughter in Kaltenbach on March 27, 1866, named Ernstina. On July 8, 1866, Johannes Forsthuber of Kaltenbach acknowledged that he was the father of Ernstina (inexplicity, shown as Verena Ernstina).
We can make the reasonable assumption that he was the father also of Maria Barbara (1864).
Johannes Forsthuber and his brother Johann Jacob exchanged favors. Each was a Godfather to illegitimate children fathered by the other. Johann Jacob later married Maria Katharina Lais of Kaltenbach, the mother of his illegitimate child.
On March 28, 1867, Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Barbara Schwald in Kaltenbach. They went on to have five more children, all born in Kaltenbach.
1. Albert--April 3, 1870 (Maria Katharina (Lais) Forsthuber was a Godmother.)
2. Ernst Friedrich--May 8, 1871 ( Jacob Friedrich Forsthuber and Johann Georg Forsthuber, two other brothers, were Godfathers.)
3. Emma--December 3, 1872 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
4. Albert Friedrich--May, 30, 1875 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
5. Anna Maria--May 26, 1877 (Johann Jacob Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
Maria Barbara (1844) died sometime after the birth of her last child; and Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Katharina Renk of
Kaltenbach (she was 16 years younger) on April 24, 1884.
Ernstina (1866) married Alexander Boetsch of Griesheim on February 24, 1887, in Kaltenbach.
Johannes Forsthuber and Maria Katharina Renk had a daughter named Sopfia in Kaltenbach.

Have Copy of Original Marriage Record from Kaltenbach...from David Gudeman 
SCHWALD FORSTHUBER, Ernestine (Verena Ernstina) (I02458)
 
4054 From: dgudeman
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:33 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Subject: Maria Barbara Schwald (1844)

Maria Barbara Schwald (1844) had an illegitimate daughter named Maria Barbara on January 19, 1864, in Kaltenbach.
She had a second illegitimate daughter in Kaltenbach on March 27, 1866, named Ernstina. On July 8, 1866, Johannes Forsthuber of Kaltenbach acknowledged that he was the father of Ernstina (inexplicity, shown as Verena Ernstina).
We can make the reasonable assumption that he was the father also of Maria Barbara (1864).
Johannes Forsthuber and his brother Johann Jacob exchanged favors. Each was a Godfather to illegitimate children fathered by the other. Johann Jacob later married Maria Katharina Lais of Kaltenbach, the mother of his illegitimate child.
On March 28, 1867, Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Barbara Schwald in Kaltenbach. They went on to have five more children, all born in Kaltenbach.
1. Albert--April 3, 1870 (Maria Katharina (Lais) Forsthuber was a Godmother.)
2. Ernst Friedrich--May 8, 1871 ( Jacob Friedrich Forsthuber and Johann Georg Forsthuber, two other brothers, were Godfathers.)
3. Emma--December 3, 1872 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
4. Albert Friedrich--May, 30, 1875 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
5. Anna Maria--May 26, 1877 (Johann Jacob Forsthuber was a Godfather.)
Maria Barbara (1844) died sometime after the birth of her last child; and Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Katharina Renk of
Kaltenbach (she was 16 years younger) on April 24, 1884.
Ernstina (1866) married Alexander Boetsch of Griesheim on February 24, 1887, in Kaltenbach.
Johannes Forsthuber and Maria Katharina Renk had a daughter named Sopfia in Kaltenbach.

The father of Karl Friedrich Schwald (1866) was never disclosed. Almost always the father of an illegitimate child was identified; and the father usually later married the mother. It is clear that the Schwald and Forsthuber families were very close. I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the Forsthuber brothers fathered Karl Friedrich (1866), most likely Jacob Friedrich, who to my knowledge, never married. But sneaking suspicions do not count in Genealogy research.

Have Copy of Original Marriage Record from Kaltenbach...from David Gudeman 
FORSTHUBER, Johannes (I02459)
 
4055 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I00055)
 
4056 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I00058)
 
4057 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I00673)
 
4058 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I09943)
 
4059 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I09934)
 
4060 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I09942)
 
4061 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I09945)
 
4062 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I09946)
 
4063 From: Roderick Schwald
To: Janet
Subject: Kiefer Info
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:02:18 -0500

FYI
I also asked Mark Stacy to give me his sources.

From www.familysearch.com
Jacob KIEFER
Birth: 16 Aug 1847
Muelheim, Germany
Parents:
Father: Michael KIEFER
Mother: Verna SCHWINDLIN  
SCHWEINLIN, Verena (I00385)
 
4064 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I00228)
 
4065 From: Wehrle
To: Janet
Subject: Re: Fwd: Our Relationship to Dieter
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:47:47 +020

Die vater und mutter von Anna Barbara Homberger: Jacob Homberger
> *19.06.1747 +01.12.1818 oo 22.10.1776 Anna Barbara (Lensin)falsch! Lais
richtig *17.09.1749 aber Lais>
> +22.12.1820.

KINDER von Jacob und Anna Barbara:
>
> 1. Maria Homberger *1777 +1791
> 2. Anna Barbara Homberger *1779 +1852
> 3. Jacob Homberger *1780 +
Johannes * 18.03.1782 + 07.08.1843 xxxxxxxxxx
4. Johann Georg Homberger *1783 +1791
> 5. Matthias Homberger *1786 +(1868) 1861! richtig
> 6. Johann Georg Homberger *(1796) 1791 ! richtig +1867 
LAIS, Anna Barbara (I07118)
 
4066 From: Wehrle
To: Janet
Subject: Re: Fwd: Our Relationship to Dieter
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:47:47 +020

Die vater und mutter von Anna Barbara Homberger: Jacob Homberger
> *19.06.1747 +01.12.1818 oo 22.10.1776 Anna Barbara (Lensin)falsch! Lais
richtig *17.09.1749 aber Lais>
> +22.12.1820.

KINDER von Jacob und Anna Barbara:
>
> 1. Maria Homberger *1777 +1791
> 2. Anna Barbara Homberger *1779 +1852
> 3. Jacob Homberger *1780 +
Johannes * 18.03.1782 + 07.08.1843 xxxxxxxxxx
4. Johann Georg Homberger *1783 +1791
> 5. Matthias Homberger *1786 +(1868) 1861! richtig
> 6. Johann Georg Homberger *(1796) 1791 ! richtig +1867 
HOMBERGER, Jacob (I07117)
 
4067 From: Wehrle
To: Janet
Subject: Re: Kiefer Bild
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:02:41 +0200

Hallo Janet,
vielen herzlichen Dank. Leider kann ich die Dateien mit den Bildern nic
oeffnen. Schade!

Hier meine Wehrle Vorfahren Linie: (in Kurzform)

Wehrle, Fred oo 21.06.1980 Schloss Buergeln Groetz, Saskia
* 28.6.1955 (4 children) 26.11.1961

Wehrle, Werner oo 25.04.1953 Vogelbach Pick, Inge
*28.06.1928 26.01.1931

Wehrle, Ernst oo 27.03.1924 Vogelbach Homberger, Anna
*04.07.1893 * 28.08.191903

Wehrle, Joh. Jakob oo 31.05.1877 Vogelbach Schleith, Anna Katharina
* 20.11.1846 * 07.10.1856

Wehrle, Joh. Jakob oo 10.09.1846 Vogelbach Schleith, Maria Katharina
* 07.11.1818 * 10.12.1824

Wehrle, Joh. Georg oo 05.09.1822 Vogelbach Osswald, Kunigunde
* 07.05.1781 * 13.03.1797

Wehrlin, Matthias oo 26.02.1760 Vogelbach Giesin, Anna
* 18.09.1730 * 18.03.1738

Wehrlin, Michael oo 18.11.1721 Vogelbach Vollmer, Verena
* 24.12.1698 * 18.07.1701

Wehrlin, Matthias oo 03.09.1693 Vogelbach Osswald, Verena
* 21.10.1658 * 16.09.1660

Wehrlin, Johannes oo vor 1652 Vogelbach Boesch, Maria
* 01.09.1611 * um 1618

Wehrlin, Lentz oo 28.02.1603 Marzell Leisinger, Maria
* um 1570 * 1569

Wehrlin, Hans oo vor 1570 Kandern NN
+ 06.01.1595

Mit freundlichen Gruessen
Fred 
WEHRLIN, Hans (Wernlin Werlin) (I07949)
 
4068 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I07939)
 
4069 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I07940)
 
4070 From: Wehrle
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Roderick
Subject: Re: Hallo Von Roderick Schwald

Wenn Du schon beim Korrigieren der Webseite bist, kannst Du noch die Anna
Werle
in "Wehrle" aendern.
?brigens, die Homepage finde ich sonst sehr gut.
Gruss
Fred
 
WEHRLE, Anna (I01014)
 
4071 From: Wehrle
To: Janet
Cc: H.Trurnit
Subject: Re: Fwd: Our Relationship to Dieter
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:42:03 +0200

falsch: Jakob Friedrich Pfunder oo Anna Maria Buerger
richtig: Jakob Friedrich Pfunder oo Anna Maria Laeuger !!

Marriage Notes for Johannes Schwald and Maria Magdalena Pfunder:
Per David Gudeman of Wichita, Kansas, in an email dated 3/21/2002:

The marriage record of Johannes Schwald on July 10, 1845, shows that.
1.He was born in Wies on July 27, 1822.
2. He was the son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger. (A person named Friedrich was often times shown as Fritz which may looked like Lutz.)
3. At the time of the marriage he was living in Kaltenbach.
4. The marriage ceremony was performed in Kaltenbach. The little church in Vogelbach was custodian of the vital records of the citizens of Vogelbach, Malsburg, and Kaltenbach. For a long time it kept the records also for Marzell, but Marzell later started keeping its own records.
5. He married Maria Magdalena Pfunder, born in Hofen on July 27, 1823.
6. Her parents were Jakob Friedrich Pfunder and Anna Maria (error ...Buerger..correct ...Anna Maria Laeuger).
7. The fathers of both Johannes and Maria Magdalena were deceased at the time of the marriage.

Per David:
I got this information fom a micro- film in the Mormon Church Library which they make available, even to non-members such as me.
I have identified no direct connection (between David's family & Roderick's), but I am confident that there are a few, if we wanted to go back far enough. After all, there are 2 Pfunders and 1 Kropf in my ancestry 
PFUNDER, Jacob Friedrich (I00734)
 
4072 From: Werner Meier
To: "Christof Schwald"
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:21 AM
Subject: Antwort: Familie Schwald aus Haagen
Hallo Christof,

... Luise Karolina Schwald wurde am 18.11.1881 in Haagen geboren. Die Eltern
Johann Friedrich Schwald und Luise, gelegentlich auch Louise Carolina
geschrieben, wohnten in Haagen, Hauptstr. 59. Diese hatten am 30.03.1876 in
Haagen geheiratet. Johann Friedrich Schwald wurde am 22.05.1852 in
Kaltenbach geboren, Luise Karolina Wechlin am 11.05.1854 in Haagen.

Werner
 
SCHWALD, Luise Karolina (I09366)
 
4073 From:Roderick Schwald
To: Janet
Subject: Kiefer Info
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:02:18 -0500

FYI
I also asked Mark Stacy to give me his sources.
From www.familysearch.com
Jacob KIEFER
Sex: M
Birth: 16 Aug 1847
Muelheim, Germany
Parents:
Father: Michael KIEFER
Mother: Verna SCHWINDLIN

Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:53:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Janet
Subject: Fwd: Re: Dieter Schwald

> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:30:11 +0200
> From: Hanno Trurnit
> To: Janet
> Subject: Re: Dieter Schwald
>
> In the meantime I've got the ancestors of Jacob
> Friedrich Kiefer from
> Fred Wehrle:
> First Generation
>
> 1 Alfred Kiefer. * on 7 Mar 1883 in Scranton Pennsylvania.
> Alfred ? in Lackawanna
> New York on 29 Mar 1955; he was 72.
>
> On 10 Jan 1912 when Alfred was 28, he * Emma Lenger,
> in Scranton Pennsylvania.
>
> They had one child:
> i. Mildred (ca1913-1987)>
>
> Second Generation
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????
>
> 2 Jacob Friedrich Kiefer. * on 16 Aug 1847. Jacob
> Friedrich ? on 3 Jan
> 1904; he was 56.
>
> In 1881 when Jacob Friedrich was 33, he * Maria
> Catharina Schwald.
>
> They had the following children:
> i. Marie (1881-1882)
> ii. Lydia (1883-1883)
> 1 iii. Alfred (1883-1955)
> iv. Elizabeth (1886-1975)
> v. Philippine (1889-1890)
> vi. Charles Frederick (1891-1953)
> vii. Tillie (1895-1935)
> viii. Charlotte (1896-1896)
> ix. Harry Amil (1897-1983)
>
> 3 Maria Catharina Schwald. * on 20 Jul 1856 in
> Kaltenbach. Maria
> Catharina ? in Buffalo, Erie New York on 2 Jul 1919; she
> was 62.
>
> wanderte mit ihrem Mann 1882 nach USA aus, lebte als
> Mary Kiefer 1900 in
> Scranton Pennsylvania;
> Abkoemmlinge sind Mark und Robert Stacey>
>
> Third Generation
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????
>
> 4 Michael Kiefer. * on 6 Jan 1825 in Fischenberg.
> Michael ? in Zell im
> Wiesental on 29 Apr 1896; he was 71.
>
> On 8 Jul 1847 when Michael was 22, he * Verena
> Schweinlin, in Vogelbach.
>
> They had one child:
> 2 i. Jacob Friedrich (1847-1904)
>
> 5 Verena Schweinlin. * on 23 Sep 1825 in
> Luetschenbach. Verena ? in
> Haagen on 19 Oct 1902; she was 77.
>
> 14 Kinder
>  
KIEFER, Michael (I00384)
 
4074 FULL MAIDEN NAME:
- Per four children's Los Angeles Co., CA marriage records 
VILLALOBOS, Maura (I22219)
 
4075 FULL NAME & BIRTH DATE
From death record 
GARCIA, Serena F. (I15342)
 
4076 FULL NAME & BIRTH DATE - per Los Alamos Cemetery record YBARRA, Francisco B. Agnisto (I15478)
 
4077 FULL NAME & BIRTH DATE: Per WWI Draft Registration TAPIA, Felipe "Philip Jim" (I17886)
 
4078 FULL NAME - per daughter's marriage record
BIRTH YEAR & PLACE - per 1940 census 
PLOENES, Ann Martin (I16741)
 
4079 FULL NAME - per descendent Douglas Nulton Sr.

BIRTH YEAR - per descendent Douglas Nulton Sr., and see 1870 Census

POSSIBLE DUPLICATION
This person may POSSIBLY be the same person as his listed brother Juan Castillo.

-Per the 1860 Census Juan Castillo was born about 1856. Brother Antonio M Castillo is not listed.
-Per the 1870 Census Juan M Castillo was born about 1856, Brother Juan Castillo is not listed.
-I can find no other record for brother Juan Castillo. 
CASTILLO, Antonio Maria (I14853)
 
4080 FULL NAME AND BIRTH DATE: From image of family bible see reference SHOEMAKE, John Wesley (I18979)
 
4081 FULL NAME, BIRTH DATE & PLACE: Per Family Tree Per Carter Steffens Ward. THIS INFORMATION IS UNVERIFIED SHOEMAKE, Alma (I18989)
 
4082 FULL NAME, LUCY CROUSER - Per descendent R. Klees
BIRTH YEAR - Per descendent, "Luz Cruz born abt 1864" 
CROUSER, Lucy (I15314)
 
4083 FULL NAME:
- Listed as replacement padrino for father:
---- L.A. Plaza Ch. Baptism ... 272) May 20 [1850]- JOSE MARIA DE JESUS VILLA, 1 m. 22 ds. h.n. of Raymunda.
Joaquin Blanco, represented by his son, Jose Hermenegildo Blanco y Maria de Jesus Villa as padrinos.
 
BLANCO, Jose Hermenegildo (I20516)
 
4084 FULL NAME: Family Tree - CARTER STEFFENS WARD SHOEMAKE, William Victor (I18987)
 
4085 FULL NAME: Per descendent M. Apodaca - 2014
NAME VARIATIONS:
Son, Eduardo Melendrez 1847 Baptism: Listed as Dolores Valenzuela 
VALENZUELA, Maria Trinidad "Dorotea" (I2538)
 
4086 FULL NAME: Per descendent M. Apodaca, New Mexico - 2014
BIRTH YEAR: Per death record
BIRTH PLACE: Per findagrave

NOTE: TASCOSA, TEXAS
Per Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tascosa,_Texas

"Tascosa was once the capital of ten counties and a rival of Dodge City, but it is now a ghost town. It is located in Oldham County in the Texas Panhandle. ..." 
MILLER, Ida Isabel (I18188)
 
4087 FULL NAME: Per descendent M.S. Lopez
BIRTH DATE - per death record 
LOPEZ, Benjamin Reginaldo (I16875)
 
4088 FULL NAME: Per relative M. Apodaca, New Mexico - 2014 RODRIGUEZ, Dolores Marie (I17989)
 
4089 FULL NAME: Per relative M. Apodaca, New Mexico, Sep 2014 TAPIA, John Baptiste (I17897)
 
4090 FULL NAME: See Family Tree - CARTER STEFFENS WARD
BIRTH DATE: From image of family bible see reference 
SHOEMAKE, Omer Tousey (I18985)
 
4091 FULL NAME: See Family Tree - CARTER STEFFENS WARD
BIRTH DATE: From image of family bible see reference 
SHOEMAKE, Drury (I18986)
 
4092 FULL NAME: Taken from son Domingo's baptism record VERDUGO, Juana Maria Resurrection (I18347)
 
4093 gave birth to Gustav in Feb 1861....married in Nov 1861

birth to Gustav in Feb 1861....married in Nov 1861

From: dave gudeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:40 AM
To: Roderick Schwald
Cc: Fred Wehrle
Subject: Schwald lineage

#5 Generation: Johann Georg Schwald was born in Wies on July 19, 1836, to Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Maria Flatt. Johann Georg married Maria Barbara Homberger in Wies on November 14, 1861. They had a son, Gustav, on February 15, 1861, out of wedlock. Maria Barbara was born in Wies on November 3, 1837, to Georg Friedrich Homberger and Anna Maria Schlageter(?).

#4 Generation: Gustav Schwald (born as Gustav Homberger) was born in Wies on February 15, 1861, to Maria Barbara Homberger, a single woman. Gustav married Carolina Spohn in Wies on May 21, 1885. They had a son, Wilhelm, born in Wies on January 7, 1887. Carolina was born in Wies on October 3, 1860, to Wilhelm Spohn and Maria Katharina Graesslin. 
HOMBERGER, Maria Barbara (I07184)
 
4094 GENDER CONFUSION:
- 1848 Baptism record: listed as Maria de Jesus GUERRERO, female
- 1852 census: listed as Jose Jesus GUERRERO, male, age 4 (est. yob 1848) 
GUERRERO, Jesus (I20854)
 
4095 GENDER CONFUSION:
- huntington.org baptism record: called Felipa
- T.w. Temple baptism record: called Felipe
- 1836 L.A. Padron: called Felipa 
LUGO, Felipa de Jesus (I20089)
 
4096 GENDER CONFUSION: 1860 Census name listed as Pablo Martinez, female. This is a male name. MARTINEZ, Pablo (I17353)
 
4097 GENDER DESCREPANCY: 1870 Census listed as female, 1880 census listed as male ROMERO, Carmen (I17338)
 
4098 GENDER DESCREPANCY: huntington.org mission extracts list this person as a male. T.W. Temple mission extracts list this person as a female. We will select the male gender until records prove otherwise. SERRANO, Manuel Maria de la Encarnacion (I12566)
 
4099 GENDER DISCREPANCY
Female - 1900 * 1910 Censuses
Male - 1920 Census 
THOMPSON, Willie M. (I27212)
 
4100 GENDER DISCREPANCY PER BAPTISM RECORD
- Antonia VELASQUEZ: female (huntington.org)
- Antonio VELASQUEZ: (male) (T.W. Temple) 
VELASQUEZ, Antonia (I20956)
 

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