Notes: Schwald Family Genealogy

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3701

FATHER OF FRANCISCA ALVARADO:
- Father ERRONEOUSLY listed as Miguel ALVARADO (He died abt. 6 years BEFORE her birth); Bap. record

Family: UNKNOWN, Unknown / AVILA, Maria Ysabel (F7025)

3702

FATHER OF JOAQUIN TICO:
- Msn. San Carlos Marriage Record: #604) Dec 2, 1801- Atrio Misn.- YGNACIO TEXO, soldado Vol. natl. dela Ciudad de Zamora en Castilla, h.l. de Alonzo Texo y Antonia Diez,
with MARIA BUENAVENTURA, hija de Maria Ramirez, India natural de Sinaloa;
TTs. Don Joaquin Tico, Sargto. dela Compa. Cataluna, hijo de Juan Tico, Carnicer

Family: TICO, Juan / UNKNOWN, Unknown (F7333)

3703

FATHER OF JOHANNES SCHWALD b. 27 Oct 1752:
- Johannes SCHWALD; per D.J. Gudeman
http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/g/u/d/David-J-Gudeman-KS/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0999.html

Family: SCHWALD, Johannes / UNKNOWN, Unknown (F7186)

3704

FATHER OF Pedro Martir COTA:

Miguel Gregorio COTA, Santa Barb. Bap. #242, dob 8 May 1802, is UNSUBSTANTIATED but MOST LIKELY the father of Pedro.
- He is the only Miguel COTA found in the mission records born within the time frame to associate him as being the father.

Family: COTA, Miguel Gregorio / URIBES, Juana Maria Antonia (F6167)

3705

COTA, Pedro Martir (I18962)

3706

FATHER OF THIS FAMILY VALIDATION:

This Enrique Avila is unsubstantiated as being the father of Crisanta Almenares.
He is the MOST LIKELY the correct person because no other Enrique Avila is found in the 1836 & 1844 Los Angeles censuses or in the T.W. Temple Mission Records.

Family: AVILA, Enrique / ALMENARES, Maria del Pilar (F4493)

3707

Father shown as Friedrich

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002

Johann Friedrich Schwald (1798), a son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger,
married Anna Barbara Weiss (not Weis) in Fischenberg on July 28, 1825. She was a daughter
of Martin Weiss. Anna Barbara Weiss died in Wies in 1827 when she was 25 years,
2 months, and 29 days old.At that time Johann Friedrich was shown as a citizen and bkacksmith (Nagelschmidt) in Wies.

He married Barbara Doerflinger of Wies in Wies on December 3, 1828. She was a daughter
of the deceased Mathias Doerflinger of Wies. Barbara was born in Wies on April 29, 1801.
At the time of his second marriage, Johann Friedrich was still shown as a Nagelschmidt in Wies

DOERFLINGER, Barbara (I07866)

3708

Father shown as Friedrich

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002

The birth record of Magdalena Schwald, the daughter of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger, clearly shows that she was born in September 1806, not in August 1806, as Fred states. The exact day in September is questionable, but not the month. You can bet the South forty on this. I wonder where Fred came up with the month of August.

His mother: Madelaine Schwald: deceased 19 05 1844 in Kaltenbach Baden Germany

Bonjour Christof,

Je te remercie beaucoup pour ton e-mail, et merci beaucoup d'avoir ?crit en
fran?ais. Je vais te donner les noms et les dates de mes anc?tres au moment
ou ils sont arriv?s en France. Ne connaissant pas l'allemand je n'ai pas pu
faire des recherches en Allemagne.

Raymond Schwald : n? le 24 01 1954 ? Strasbourg en France.
Mon p?re : Robert Schwald : n? le 12 03 1925 ? Colmar en France
Son p?re : Fran?ois, Eug?ne Schwald : n? le 28 12 1883 ? Turckheim en
France.
Son p?re : Fran?ois-Joseph Schwald : n? le 04 06 1861 ? Turckheim en France.
Son p?re : Jean, Georges Schwald : n? le 29 11 1829 ? Fischenberg (
Fichenberg ?) Bade en Allemagne.
Sa m?re : Madelaine Schwald : d?c?d? le 19 05 1844 ? Kaltenbach Bade en
Allemagne.
Son p?re : Fr?d?rique Schwald : d?c?d? le 19 12 1839 ? Fischenberg Bade en
Allemagne

Certains documents ?crivent Fischenberg avec un s ou sans s !

Fischenberg d?pendrait de la paroisse de Wies (code postale 79697) et cette
derni?re d?pendrait de Weitenau ?
Kaltenbach d?pendrait de la paroisse de Vogelbach ( code postal 79875) ?

Je ne suis pas s?r de ces informations.

Si tu pouvais m'aider dans mes recherches je serais tr?s heureux.

Merci beaucoup et ? bient?t,
Raymond Schwald.

Hello Christof,
I thank you much for your e-mail, and thank you very much for writing in French. I will give you the names and the dates of my ancestors at the time they arrived to France.

Not knowing German, I have not been able to make research in Germany.

Raymond Schwald: born 24 01 1954 in Strasbourg in France.
My father: Robert Schwald: born 12 03 1925 in Colmar in France.
His father: Francois, Eugene Schwald: born 28 12 1883 in Turckheim in France.
His father: Fran?ois-Joseph Schwald: born 04 06 1861 in Turckheim in France.
His father: Jean, George Schwald: born 29 11 1829 in Fischenberg Baden Germany.
His mother: Madelaine Schwald: deceased 19 05 1844 in Kaltenbach Baden Germany.
Her father: Frederique Schwald: deceased 19 12 1839 in Fischenberg Baden Germany

Certain documents write Fischenberg with an S or without S!
Would Fischenberg depend on the parish of Wies (code postal 79697) and the latter would depend on Weitenau?
Would Kaltenbach depend on the parish of Vogelbach (postal code 79875)?
I am not sure of this information. If you could assist in my research I would be very happy.
Thank you very much and write soon,
Raymond Schwald.

SCHWALD, Magdalena (I07190)

3709

Father shown as Friedrich

From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet"
Subject: Re: Schwald lineage
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:07:50 -0500

It is true that Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger had two
children before they were married, as is shown on Hanno's web-site.
1, Johann Friedrich Schwald, born in Wies on March 4, 1798. (The father was
shown as Friedrich.)
2. Anna Barbara Schwald, born in Wies on May 4, 1800. (The father was shown
as Friz.)
You will notice that they were both born with the Schwald name, quite unusal
for a child who was born out of wedlock to be given the name of the father
rather the mother. It is obvious that it was no secret who the father was,
and Friedrich and Anna Barbara probably had full intentions of marrying
later. I find it interesting that the two children born before the marriage
were born in Wies, the home of Anna Barbara, whereas the eight children born
after the marriage were born in Fischenberg, the home of Friedrich.
(Johannes (1822) was born in Fischenberg, not in Wies as shown on Hanno's
website.) I missed these two children the first time, probably because it
did not occur to me to check for births before the marriage.
It is curious that Hanno lists the two children born before the marriage,
and the first child born after the marriage, and the last child born; but
fails to show the six children born between 1802 and 1822.
It is true that a Frieddich Schwald, a widower, married a Barbara
Doerflingerin in 1828, as shown on Hanno's website. But this Friedrich was
not the Friedrich who was married to Anna Barbara Homberger, your ancestor.
Anna Barbara did not die until February 3, 1852 in Fischenberg.
Hanno lists over 16,000 names on his web site, and I wonder where he picks
up all this information. He is causing a lot of confusion and damage
because, it appears to me, he is more interested in quantity rather than
quality.

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002

Johann Friedrich Schwald (1798), a son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger, married Anna Barbara Weiss (not Weis) in Fischenberg on July 28, 1825. She was a daughter of Martin Weiss. Anna Barbara Weiss died in Wies in 1827 when she was 25 years, 2 months, and 29 days old. At that time Johann Friedrich was shown as a citizen and bkacksmith (Nagelschmidt) in Wies. He married Barbara Doerflinger of Wies in Wies on December 3, 1828. She was a daughter of the deceased Mathias Doerflinger of Wies. Barbara was born in Wies on April 29, 1801. At the time of his second marriage, Johann Friedrich was still shown as a Nagelschmidt in Wies.

SCHWALD, Johann "Friedrich" (I07114)

3710

Father shown as Friedrich

Per David Gudeman:

Anna Maria had a daughter named Anna Maria in Fischenberg on December 9, 1827

SCHWALD, Anna Maria (I07191)

3711

Father shown as Fritz

1. Per Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 440

SCHWALD, Friedlin (I07193)

3712

Father shown as Fritz

From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet"
Subject: Re: Schwald lineage
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:07:50 -0500

It is true that Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger had two
children before they were married, as is shown on Hanno's web-site.
1, Johann Friedrich Schwald, born in Wies on March 4, 1798. (The father was
shown as Friedrich.)
2. Anna Barbara Schwald, born in Wies on May 4, 1800. (The father was shown
as Friz.)
You will notice that they were both born with the Schwald name, quite unusal
for a child who was born out of wedlock to be given the name of the father
rather the mother. It is obvious that it was no secret who the father was,
and Friedrich and Anna Barbara probably had full intentions of marrying
later. I find it interesting that the two children born before the marriage
were born in Wies, the home of Anna Barbara, whereas the eight children born
after the marriage were born in Fischenberg, the home of Friedrich.
(Johannes (1822) was born in Fischenberg, not in Wies as shown on Hanno's
website.) I missed these two children the first time, probably because it
did not occur to me to check for births before the marriage.
It is curious that Hanno lists the two children born before the marriage,
and the first child born after the marriage, and the last child born; but
fails to show the six children born between 1802 and 1822.
It is true that a Frieddich Schwald, a widower, married a Barbara
Doerflingerin in 1828, as shown on Hanno's website. But this Friedrich was
not the Friedrich who was married to Anna Barbara Homberger, your ancestor.
Anna Barbara did not die until February 3, 1852 in Fischenberg.
Hanno lists over 16,000 names on his web site, and I wonder where he picks
up all this information. He is causing a lot of confusion and damage
because, it appears to me, he is more interested in quantity rather than
quality.

SCHWALD, Anna Barbara (I07115)

3713

Father shown as Fritz

From: dave gudeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:40 AM
To: Roderick Schwald
Cc: Fred Wehrle
Subject: Schwald lineage

It is true that you and Dieter Scfwald of Malsburg are related. However, information that Hanno sent me failed to make the connection. Dieter's lineage went back 4 generations and then it hit a snag by omitting generations # 5 and #6 and then jumping to generation #7. The confusion may have been caused by the fact that Gustav Schwald of generation #4 was illegitimate and was born as Gustav Homberger, not as Gustav Schwald. In the event that this confusion has not already been clarified, I submit the following:
#4 Generation: Gustav Schwald (born as Gustav Homberger) was born in Wies on February 15, 1861, to Maria Barbara Homberger, a single woman. Gustav married Carolina Spohn in Wies on May 21, 1885. They had a son, Wilhelm, born in Wies on January 7, 1887. Carolina was born in Wies on October 3, 1860, to Wilhelm Spohn and Maria Katharina Graesslin.
#5 Generation: Johann Georg Schwald was born in Wies on July 19, 1836, to Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Maria Flatt. Johann Georg married Maria Barbara Homberger in Wies on November 14, 1861. They had a son, Gustav, on February 15, 1861, out of wedlock. Maria Barbara was born in Wies on November 3, 1837, to Georg Friedrich Homberger and Anna Maria Schlageter(?).
#6 Generation: Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald was born in Fischenberg on December 1, 1809, to Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger. Friedrich married Anna Maria Flatt in Wies on September 9, 1833. They had a son, Johann Georg, in Wies on July 19, 1836. Anna Maria Flatt was a widow of Johann Lenzin of Wies, who died on August 16, 1831.
#7 Generation: Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald was born in Fischenberg on September 13, 1772, to Johann Georg Schwald and Anna Maria Wagner. Friedrich married Anna Barbara Homberger in Wies on February 17, 1801. They had a son, Friedrich,. in Fischenberg on December 1, 1809.

This means that Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger are the common ancestors of you and Dieter.
As it turns out, there were three missing generations rather than two, as stated in Hanno's E-mail.

The foregoing information was obtained from Mormon Micro-films 1189731, 1189732, and 1189733.

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002

In Dieter's line, the wife of Friedrich Schwald (1809) was definitely (repeat, definitely) shown in the marriage record in 1833 as Anna Maria Flatt (not Flad) of Wies. In later years, the name Flad is commonally found in the Malsburg records. It appears that the spelling of the name may have gradually permuted from Flatt to Flad. Another possibility (although I seriously doubt it) is that there were two distinct families with similar names.

Note: Anna Maria Flatt was born on August 17, 1810 in Wies. When she married Friedrich in 1833, she was a widow. Her first husband, Johannes Buergin, died in Wies on August 16, 1831.

SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friederich" (I01943)

3714

Father shown as Fritz

SCHWALD, Johann Georg (I07192)

3715

Father shown as Fritz[cfschwaldOR.FTW]

Name taken from Charles F. Schwald death certificate.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
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JOHANN JACOB SCHWALD
Male Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: ANNA KATHARINA STRUETT Family
Marriage: 12 FEB 1840 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Typ

M936742 1834 - 1895 1189731 Film NONE

SCHWALD, Johann Jacob "John J." (I07194)

3716

Father was shown as Fritz

SCHWALD, Anna Catharina (I07116)

3717

FATHER'S LAST NAME IS AYALA

VALENZUELA AYALA, Maria "Guadalupe" (I21371)

3718

FATHER'S NAME
See burial record, mother unknown
This is unsubstantiated, but MOST LIKELY, the correct Pedro Olivares as her father. There is no other Pedro Olivares mentioned in the mission records around the date of her birth.

OLIVARES, Pulqueria (I15305)

3719

FIRST COUSINS, mothers are sisters

Family: AGUILAR, Jose Casildo / COTA, Petra Margarita (F6477)

3720

FIRST COUSINS:
- Vicente Ortega ORDAZ's mother (Maria Soledad ORTEGA) is the SISTER to
- Maria Manuela ORTEGA's father (Jose Manuel Antonio ORTEGA)

Family: ORDAZ, Luis "Vicente" Ortega / ORTEGA, Maria Manuela (F6368)

3721

FIRST COUSINS: Fernando ORTEGA and Hermogenes ORTEGA, sons of Pedro ORTEGA and Luisa Gonzaga ORTEGA (who were also first cousins)
- Vicente ORTEGA, son of Fernando ORTEGA
- Lorenza Marguerita (AKA: Margerita L.) ORTEGA, daughter of Hermogenes ORTEGA

Family: ORTEGA, Vicente / ORTEGA, Margarita Luisa (F6361)

3722

FIRST MARRIAGE:
- UNSUBSTANTIATED but MOST LIKELY Jose Francisco GUTIERREZ is Jennie Madeline ROMERO's first husband.
- LaylaCorderoYo family tree on ancestry.com lists daughter Irene's last name as "Irene Gutierez ?Valencia?Valenzia?". Her maiden name must have been Gutierrez.
- 1910 Census Jennie VALENCIA listed as being in marriage 2, married 2 years (est. 1908)
- Santa Barbara County marriage record of Jose Francisco GUTIERREZ lists wife as Juana ROMERO, est. dob. 1881.
-- First name Juana could be real first name for Jennie ROMERO.
-- 1910 Santa Barbara County Census Jennie ROMERO VALENCIA lists age as 20, est. dob bet. 1880-1881, which aligns with marriage record
-- Daughter Irene Valencia, as mentioned in the 1910 census, married Manuel Raymundo Cordero, and their son Anthony's 1924 birth record lists mother's maiden name as Gutierez.

Family: GUTIERREZ, Jose Francisco / ROMERO, Juanita "Jennie Madeline" (F5615)

3723

At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld.

Family: BENNETT, William James (Sr.) / Living (F1100)

3724

First Methodist Church

Family: MARTIN, Ellery U. / ADE, Nellie Madge (F1333)

3725

At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld.

Family: Living / Living (F1346)

3726

FIRST NAME
per descendent Douglas Nulton Sr.

HERNANDEZ, Basilia Bibiana (I14816)

3727

FIRST NAME
Spelling variation: Meregilda, Hermenegilda

MARIS, Maria Merejilda (I15322)

3728

FIRST NAME - 1880 Census first name looks like Eligio or Elipio

VILLA, Jose Benigno Eligio (I16776)

3729

FIRST NAME - According to his baptism record, Martin was his legal name

COOPER, Fernando Antonio "Martin" (I15776)

3730

FIRST NAME - Also known as Martina, Emilia, and Amelia
LAST NAME - Also known as Reina, German (mother's maiden name)
BIRTH PLACE: (Prior to 1874 known as San Juan, Monterey, California)

REYNA, Matiana German (I15462)

3731

FIRST NAME - per relative F. Lopez's family tree
BIRTH DATE - per death record

LOPEZ, Aniva Enrique "Henry" (I16876)

3732

FIRST NAME - Remegio Olivas 1840 to 1928

OLIVAS, "Remigio" Trinidad (I15066)

3733

FIRST NAME - This person is unsubstantiated, but MOST LIKELY the same person as Filomena Duarte
Filomena Duarte is listed as having the same parents and per 1844 L.A. Padron born abt. 1807.

DUARTE, Maria "Filomena" (I14335)

3734

FIRST NAME AND SEX CONTRADICTIONS
- Baptism listed as Maria Maclovia, record states married Lorenzo Soto in 1948
- 1880 Census listed as Maclaude - male

MOSS, Maria "Maclovia" (I16788)

3735

FIRST NAME OF TERESA:
- 1834 S.B. Census: Teresa ORTEGA, 10 (est. yob 1824), daughter of Antonio Maria ORTEGA (and deceased wife Tomasa RODRIGUEZ)
-- yob correlates with daughter Maria de Jesus Antonia ORTEGA's 1825 yob and whose name is not found in this census with this family.
DEDUCTION: Maria de Jesus Antonia ORTEGA is the same person as Teresa ORTEGA.

ORTEGA, Maria de Jesus Antonia "Teresa" (I19349)

3736

FIRST NAME PROBABILITY: Some sources question his first name as being Manuel. UNSUBSTANTIATED. He is supposedly the son of Rafael SOLARES, tribal leader.

SOLARES, Manuel (I19260)

3737

FIRST NAME SPELLING - 1860 Census transcription lists him as Bohen, census image name difficult to read handwriting, however name looks like Bohese

STENNER, Bohese (I16338)

3738

FIRST NAME SPELLING: Used common Spanish Spelling, different than what is listed on Death REcord
BIRTH DATE: Per Death Record

TAPIA, Verona Evarista (I17953)

3739

FIRST NAME VARIANCE (Per Voter Registration list)
- T. Benjamin JUAREZ: 1875, Santa Barbara
- Also known as Trinidad Benjamin JUAREZ

JUAREZ, Benjamin (I16818)

3740

At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld.

Living (I17423)

3741

FIRST NAME VARIANCE: Torbia
LAST NAME VARIANCE: Beltram
FULL NAME VARIANCE: Ruth Marcelina Beltran

BELTRAN, Torvia "Ruth" (I17069)

3742

FIRST NAME VARIANCES - 1860 census listed as Ellen, UNSUBSTANTIATED but most likely the Ellen and Adelina Elisa Stenner are the same person give the closeness of the middle names and ages

STENNER, Adelina Elisa (I16305)

3743

FIRST NAME VARIANCES: Per mission record; Gumesinda, Rudecinda, Numecinda

GONZALEZ, Gumesinda "Rudecinda" (I11113)

3744

FIRST NAME VARIATION - 1860 census listed as Lorenza, UNSUBSTANTIATED, but most likely same person as Concepcion given the age listed, and no additional censuses list a child named Lorenza with the family

STENNER, Maria Concepcion (I16308)

3745

FIRST NAME VARIATION - Bibiana

SANCHEZ, Maria "Viviana" (I15754)

3746

FIRST NAME VARIATION - Raimundo

OLIVAS, Jose Raymundo (I11692)

3747

FIRST NAME VARIATION:
- Helen VERDUGO; 1930 Census

VERDUGO, Elena Angela (I19309)

3748

FIRST NAME VARIATION:
- 1860 census: Guilia

ESPINOSA, Julia (I20863)

3749

FIRST NAME VARIATION:
- 1860 census: Marcelena

ESPINOSA, Marcelina (I20861)

3750

FIRST NAME VARIATION:
- Albina

BORONDA, Maria Alvina Petra Paula (I23098)